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The idea of life after death is pervasive across cultures. Traditionally it involves another world contrasting positively or negatively with the natural one, in which some or all of the deceased are reunited with ancestors or encounter supernatural beings. The images of this are unresolved between immaterial and material scenarios. So, for example, it is sometimes said that following death the person goes to another place where s/he sees beautiful landscapes and other figures they recognise, and then perhaps moves towards a bright and loving light which they are drawn into. In this other world they neither age nor change but live forever. Two features of this sort of account are striking. First, there is the resemblance to dreams, the experience of which very likely gave rise to the idea of leaving one’s earthly body and surroundings and going to another place, with the mixture of the familiar and the strange that is characteristic of dream narratives. Second, there is the fact of bodily and non-bodily descriptions. The latter is the source of both philosophical scepticism about an after-life and of different metaphysical accounts of it. In Judaism up until close to the New Testament period there was only limited belief in personal immortality. Instead, the focus of the hope of survival and future life was on the people of Israel being safe and flourishing in their own land under the governance of a benign and powerful leader, the Messiah. The Gospel narratives and Epistles introduce the promise of future life through bodily resurrection following the example of Jesus. The classic source of this I Corinthians 15 where Paul responds to a community in Corinth asking about the second coming of Christ (the Messiah) and wondering about what happens in the meantime to those who die. Paul explains that the latter will be raised again and answering the question ‘with what kind of body’ he says (perhaps with the post-resurrection appearance of Jesus) ‘a spiritual one’ (soma pneumatikon). This, however, suggest the earlier problem of the coherence of thinking in terms of bodies that are spirits. Among the early Greek Church Fathers, the idea that the afterlife involves ‘subtle bodies’, or as we might say ‘ghostly forms’, was encouraged by their adoption of Platonic dualism which distinguishes body and soul, and regards the first as inferior and mortal and the second as superior and immortal. This tension between ‘body’ and ‘spirit’ images and conceptions persist into the present. So far as philosophical arguments are concerned it is important to note that the possibility of surviving death, or of being resurrected or reincarnated is not itself a guarantee of immortality, i.e. of never dying. It could be that like bodies souls also have a limited life. That said, most who argue for a life after death also argue that it is one beyond the reaches of death. The main focus of such arguments is the non-identity of the person, or psychological self with the body. This is supported by considerations purporting to show the non-materiality of consciousness and/or of intellectual activity.

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    The Makropulos case: reflections on the tedium of immortality Author: Bernard Williams Source: Problems of the Self, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1973. This essay started life as a lecture in a series ‘on the immortality of the soul or kindred spiritual subject'.¹ My kindred spiritual subject is, one might say, the mortality of the soul. Those among previous lecturers who were philosophers tended, I think, to discuss the question whether we are immortal; that is not my subject, but rather what a good thing it is that we are not. Immortality, or a state without death, would be meaningless, I shall suggest; so, in a sense, death gives the meaning to life. That does not mean that we should not fear death (whatever force that injunction might be taken to have, anyway). Indeed, there are several very different ways in which it could be true at once that death gave the meaning to life and that death was, other things being equal, something to be feared. Some existentialists, for instance, seem to have said that death was what gave meaning to life, if anything did, just because it was the fear of death that gave meaning to life; I shall not follow them. I shall rather pursue the idea that from facts about human desire and happiness and what a human life is, it follows both that immortality would be, where conceivable at all, intolerable, and that (other things being equal) death is reasonably regarded as an evil. Considering whether death can reasonably be regarded as an evil is in fact as near as I shall get to considering whether it should be feared: they are not quite the same question. My title is that, as it is usually translated into English, of a play by Karel Čapek which was made into an opera by Janacek and which tells of a woman called Elina Makropulos, alias Emilia Marty, alias Ellian Macgregor, alias a number of other things with the initials 'EM', on whom her father, the Court physician to a sixteenth-century Emperor, tried out an elixir of life. At the time of the action she is aged 342. Her unending life has come to a state of boredom, indifference and coldness. Everything is joyless: 'in the end it is the same', she says, 'singing and silence'. She refuses to take the elixir again; she dies; and the formula is deliberately destroyed by a young woman among the protests of some older men. EM's state suggests at least this, that death is not necessarily an evil, and not just in the sense in which almost everybody would agree to that, where death provides an end to great suffering, but in the more intimate sense that it can be a good thing not to live too long. It suggests more than that, for it suggests that it was not a peculiarity of EM's that an endless life was meaningless. That is something I shall follo� Vw out later. First, though, we 1 should put together the suggestion of EM's case, that death is not necessarily an evil, with the claim of some philosophies and religions that death is necessarily not an evil. Notoriously, there have been found two contrary bases on which that claim can be mounted: death is said by some not to be an evil because it is not the end, and by others, because it is. There is perhaps some profound temperamental difference between those who find consolation for the fact of death in the hope that it is only the start of another life, and those who equally find comfort in the conviction that it is the end of the only life there is. That both such temperaments exist means that those who find a diagnosis of the belief in immortality, and indeed a reproach to it, in the idea that it constitutes a consolation, have at best only a statistical fact to support them. While that may be just about enough for the diagnosis, it is not enough for the reproach. Most famous, perhaps, among those who have found comfort in the second option, the prospect of annihilation, was Lucretius, who, in the steps of Epicurus, and probably from a personal fear of death which in some of his pages seems almost tangible, addresses himself to proving that death is never an evil. Lucretius has two basic arguments for this conclusion, and it is an important feature of them both that the conclusion they offer has the very strong consequence - and seems clearly intended to have the consequence - that, for oneself at least, it is all the same whenever one dies, that a long life is no better than a short one. That is to say, death is never an evil in the sense not merely that there is no-one for whom dying is an evil, but that there is no time at which dying is an evil – sooner or later, it is all the same. The first argument² seeks to interpret the fear of death as a confusion, based on the idea that we shall be there after death to repine our loss of the praemia vitae, the rewards and delights of life, and to be upset at the spectacle of our bodies burned, and so forth. The fear of death, it is suggested, must necessarily be the fear of some experiences had when one is dead. But if death is annihilation, then there are no such experiences: in the Epicurean phrase, when death is there, we are not, and when we are there, death is not. So, death being annihilation, there is nothing to fear. The second argument³ addresses itself directly to the question of whether one dies earlier or later, and says that one will be the same time dead however early or late one dies, and therefore one might as well die earlier as later. And from both arguments we can conclude nil igitur mors est ad nos, neque pertinet hilum – death is nothing to us, and does not matter at all.4 2 The second of these arguments seems even on the face of things to contradict the first. For it must imply that if there were a finite period of death, such that if you died later you would be dead for less time, then there would be some point in wanting to die later rather than earlier. But that implication makes sense, surely, only on the supposition that what is wrong with dying consists in something undesirable about the condition of being dead. And that is what is denied by the first argument. More important than this, the oddness of the second argument can help to focus a difficulty already implicit in the first. The first argument, in locating the objection to dying in a confused objection to being dead, and exposing that in terms of a confusion with being alive, takes it as genuinely true of life that the satisfaction of d� [sfaesire, and possession of the praemia vitae, are good things. It is not irrational to be upset by the loss of home, children, possessions – what is irrational is to think of death as, in the relevant sense, losing anything. But now if we consider two lives, one very short and cut off before the praemia have been acquired, the other fully provided with the praemia and containing their enjoyment to a ripe age, it is very difficult to see why the second life, by these standards alone, is not to be thought better than the first. But if it is, then there must be something wrong with the argument which tries to show that there is nothing worse about a short life than a long one. The argument locates the mistake about dying in a mistake about consciousness, it being assumed that what commonsense thinks about the worth of the praemia vitae and the sadness of their (conscious) loss is sound enough. But if the praemia vitae are valuable; even if we include as necessary to that value consciousness that one possesses them; then surely getting to the point of possessing them is better than not getting to that point, longer enjoyment of them is better than shorter, and more of them, other things being equal, is better than less of them.. But if so, then it just will not be true that to die earlier is all the same as to die later, nor that death is never an evil - and the thought that to die later is better than to die earlier will not be dependent on some muddle about thinking that the dead person will be alive to lament his loss. It will depend only on the idea, apparently sound, that if the praemia vitae and consciousness of them are good things, then longer consciousness of more praemia is better than shorter consciousness of fewer praemia. Is the idea sound? A decent argument, surely, can be marshalled to support it. If I desire something, then, other things being equal, I prefer a state of affairs in which I get it from one in which I do not get it, and (again, other things being equal) plan for a future in which I get it rather than not. But one future, for sure, in which I would not get it would be one in 3 which I was dead. To want something, we may also say, is to that extent to have reason for resisting what excludes having that thing: and death certainly does that, for a very large range of things that one wants.³ If that is right, then for any of those things, wanting something itself gives one a reason for avoiding death. Even though if I do not succeed, I will not know that, nor what I am missing, from the perspective of the wanting agent it is rational to aim for states of affairs in which his want is satisfied, and hence to regard death as something to be avoided; that is, to regard it as an evil. It is admittedly true that many of the things I want, I want only on the assumption that I am going to be alive; and some people, for instance some of the old, desperately want certain things when nevertheless they would much rather that they and their wants were dead. It might be suggested that not just these special cases, but really all wants, were conditional on being alive; a situation in which one has ceased to exist is not to be compared with others with respect to desire-satisfaction - rather, if one dies, all bets are off. But surely the claim that all desires are in this sense conditional must be wrong. For consider the idea of a rational forward-looking calculation of suicide: there can be such a thing, even if many suicides are not rational, and even though with some that are, it may be unclear to what extent they are forward-looking (the obscurity of this with regard to suicides of honour is an obscurity in the notion of shame). In such a calculation, a man might consider what lay before him, and decide whether he did or did not want to undergo it. If he does decide to � [es undergo it, then some desire propels him on into the future, and that desire at least is not one that operates conditionally on his being alive, since it itself resolves the question of whether he is going to be alive. He has an unconditional, or (as I shall say) a categorical desire. The man who seriously calculates about suicide and rejects it, only just has such a desire, perhaps. But if one is in a state in which the question of suicide does not occur, or occurs only as total fantasy – if, to take just one example, one is happy – one has many such desires, which do not hang from the assumption of one's existence. If they did hang from that assumption, then they would be quite powerless to rule out that assumption's being questioned, or to answer the question if it is raised; but clearly they are not powerless in those directions on the contrary they are some of the few things, perhaps the only things, that have power in that direction. Some ascetics have supposed that happiness required reducing one's desires to those necessary for one's existence, that is, to those that one has to have granted that one exists at all; rather, it requires that some of one's desires should 4 be fully categorical, and one's existence itself wanted as something necessary to them. To suppose that one can in this way categorically want things implies a number of things about the nature of desire. It implies, for one thing, that the reason I have for bringing it about that I get what I want is not merely that of avoiding the unpleasantness of not getting what I want. But that must in any case be right – otherwise we should have to represent every desire as the desire to avoid its own frustration, which is absurd. About what those categorical desires must be, there is not much of great generality to be said, if one is looking at the happy state of things: except, once more against the ascetic, that there should be not just enough, but more than enough. But the question might be raised, at the impoverished end of things, as to what the minimum categorical desire might be. Could it be just the desire to remain alive? The answer is perhaps 'no'. In saying that, I do not want to deny the existence, the value, or the basic necessity of a sheer reactive drive to self-preservation: humanity would certainly wither if the drive to keep alive were not stronger than any perceived reasons for keeping alive. But if the question is asked, and it is going to be answered calculatively, then the bare categorical desire to stay alive will not sustain the calculation that desire itself, when things have got that far, has to be sustained or filled out by some desire for something else, even if it is only, at the margin, the desire that future desires of mine will be born and satisfied. But the best insight into the effect of categorical desire is not gained at the impoverished end of things, and hence in situations where the question has actually come up. The question of life being desirable is certainly transcendental in the most modest sense, in that it gets by far its best answer in never being asked at all. None of this - including the thoughts of the calculative suicide – requires my reflection on a world in which I never occur at all. In the terms of 'possible worlds' (which can admittedly be misleading), a man could, on the present account, have a reason from his own point of view to prefer a possible world in which he went on longer to one in which he went on for less long, or like the suicide – the opposite; but he would have no reason of this kind to prefer a world in which he did not occur at all. Thoughts about his total absence from the world would have to be of a different kind, impersonal reflections on the value for the world of his presence or absence: of the same kind, essentially, a� [sses he could conduct (or, more probably, not manage to conduct) with regard to anyone else. While he can think egoistically of what it would be for him to live longer or less long, he cannot think egoistically of what it would be him never to have existed at all. Hence the 5

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